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French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by Peterm » Sun 16 Aug 2020 09:27

Hello - I wonder if any P O residents have experience of how the French quarantine rules are applied, as they were in force for approx three weeks earlier in the summer on a reciprocal basis.
It looks almost certain they will be introduced again but I understand it could be voluntary, not enforced mandatory, as was the experience earlier in the year.
I have a second home in the region and was going to drive down next week and stay for approx four weeks. I am prepared to accept quarantine restrictions on return to Britain but would cancel my trip if I had to quarantine in France.
What does voluntary quarantine actually mean in practice ?
Any advice what be appreciated
Peter

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by alan » Sun 16 Aug 2020 16:32

Peter

We are in a similar position to you with flights booked for 1 September.

All we know at the moment is that the Junior Minister for European Affairs, Clément Beaune, tweeted in response to the UK announcement: “we regret this British decision, which will lead to a reciprocal measure [in France], while hoping for a return to normal as quickly as possible.”

This is a useful article in the Connexion:

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French- ... ures-on-UK

As you will see the person who spoke to the newspaper said that "the measures could involve people being tested on arrival at airports, or giving information on where they were planning to self-isolate".

I personally wouldn't assume that the measures will involve merely a "voluntary" quarantine. There have been a number of articles about how angry the French Government is with the British Government -see this for instance:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/fra ... e-decision.

I am keeping a close eye on the internet and intend to share on this forum what I come across over the coming days.

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by alan » Sun 16 Aug 2020 20:24

I have just come across this tweet from an eminent lawyer with expertise in European law:
George Peretz QC
@GeorgePeretzQC
Aug 13
Replying to
@GeorginaEWright
Reciprocity is a very dodgy basis for imposing a quarantine under EU law (which still applies here, of course). The June position was a “voluntary” quarantine, for (I suspect) precisely that reason. Suspect same tactic will be employed again.

So fingers crossed, it will be a "voluntary" quarantine but nothing more said yet.

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by Peterm » Tue 18 Aug 2020 10:03

Thanks Alan for your replies and links.
To date I am not aware of any response from French authorities on reciprocal measures but no doubt there will be some statement soon.
I am hoping to cross the Channel on the 25th and will wait until about 24 hours before I decide

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by alan » Tue 18 Aug 2020 11:12

Hello Peter

It's really frustrating but there is nothing in the public domain.

The Facebook page of the British Embassy in Paris continues to say;

"as soon as we have an update on France's intention to introduce reciprocal quarantine measures we will update this page".

Also the Connexion journalists seem to be working hard to find out what is happening.

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by Pighunter » Tue 18 Aug 2020 12:39

I have to say I find the concept of reciprocal quarantine petty and unnecessary. The UK have imposed a quarantine as the rate of infection is much higher in France to protect their citizens, fair enough.

To impose a quarantine reciprocally without a scientific reason is just childish and indicative of how faced with the virus, nationalism is once again prevalent.

I had 2 sets of friends due to visit. One has cancelled due to the quarantine in the UK, the other is pretty much self isolating anyway and working on Skype so are going ahead regardless.

I hope common sense will prevail but am not holding my breath.

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Post by Ted & Jemima » Wed 19 Aug 2020 09:15

<To impose a quarantine reciprocally without a scientific reason is just childish and indicative of how faced with the virus, nationalism is once again prevalent.>

Sorry, are we talking about the UK government here?

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by Peterm » Wed 19 Aug 2020 11:08

If the French govt wants to salvage what’s left of it’s British tourist industry for this year it should swallow it’s pride and adopt a common sense approach to quarantine, instead of “tit for tat”

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by alan » Mon 24 Aug 2020 15:58

Still nothing on the French reciprocal arrangements but due soon apparently see https://www.connexionfrance.com/French- ... n-minister

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Post by Ted & Jemima » Mon 24 Aug 2020 17:00

<I had 2 sets of friends due to visit...>

'Coronavirus: when the fortnight shortens the Aude holidays of the British'
https://www.lindependant.fr/2020/08/22/ ... 030353.php

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by Peterm » Thu 27 Aug 2020 12:15

Following my earlier post I decided to proceed with my travel plans and arrived in Calais on the 25th with no problem. There were no questions asked or forms to complete by French border officials.
As I intend to stay in France for at least four weeks I am prepared to accept the restrictions on return to UK
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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by alan » Thu 27 Aug 2020 21:12

Have a great stay in France, Peter.

We have come to a different decision and will not be travelling out as we had planned next week but our situation differs from yours in that we were only going out for a week anyway.

Spending 2 weeks under virtual house arrest on our return home was not appealing. More important though is the fact that the French Government has still to announce the reciprocal measures it has threatened. Also, given the latest news, we would not wish to be detained in France under some local lock-down which might be declared while we were out.

We do hope though to get out later in the year depending on how things develop.

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by SteveB » Fri 28 Aug 2020 10:10

Does anyone know the best place to get up-to-date information on this? I am booked to fly to Perpignan on Sunday as quarantine on returning to the UK isn't particularly a problem, but if similar measures are imposed in France that would make it not worthwhile for me to come. I read somewhere that an announcement is expected today.

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by alan » Fri 28 Aug 2020 11:44

Steve

I've been keeping an eye on various sites.

Here is the latest in the Connexion:

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French- ... K-arrivals

Also the British Embassy in Paris has promised to report any announcement made on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/ukinfrance/

And of course there will be an update on the French Government site:

https://www.facebook.com/ukinfrance/

There is a massive interest so as soon as something is announced I am sure we will get to know about it very quickly.

Enjoy your stay if you do travel out on Sunday.

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by alan » Tue 15 Sep 2020 17:16

Here are a couple of newspaper articles indicating what might be coming in France and across the EU after the precise details of the new traffic light system have been agreed at the EU Council of Ministers meeting on October 15th:


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... uarantine/

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-sty ... -1.4355353

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Post by alan » Wed 16 Sep 2020 11:40

Backing from European airlines for EU's new traffic light system:

https://techxplore.com/news/2020-09-eur ... chaos.html

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Re: French Quarantine Restrictions

Post by alan » Fri 18 Sep 2020 11:56

This has now been reported today in Connexion:

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French- ... K-arrivals

I think the position will change after the EU Council of Ministers meet on 15 October

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