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Duel Fuel Range cookers.

Posted: Mon 25 Oct 2010 18:12
by Marguerite & Steve
If I bought a duel fuel range cooker in the UK, could I bring it to France? Would the jets for LPG have to be different etc? when I had one in the UK we used red bottle gas. I have looked for the cookers in France but they are so expensive.

Posted: Mon 25 Oct 2010 20:44
by russell
The gas in the red bottles in the UK is propane. You can get propane bottles from any filling station here. So there should be no need to change jets. The fittings for the bottles are different and the bottle colours depend on the manufacturer. You will need a pressure regulator and a low pressure cut off valve in the circuit.

Russell.

Posted: Mon 25 Oct 2010 22:09
by Marguerite & Steve
thanks Russell, that makes life a bit easier.

Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010 13:33
by Marguerite & Steve
I am about to buy this cooker, can anyone see any reason why it would not work in France....thanks

http://www.marksandspencer-appliances.c ... -CM101FRCP


Just found it £100 cheaper,...so shall I order it???

Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010 16:51
by Marguerite & Steve
Sorry brought this back into focus, I understand from Russell, I can buy this cooker and use the bottled gas over here...have I understood Russell correctly. :? :? (not doubting you for one minute Russell)

Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010 18:28
by Marguerite & Steve
russell wrote:The fittings for the bottles are different and the bottle colours depend on the manufacturer. You will need a pressure regulator and a low pressure cut off valve in the circuit.

Russell.

Do I buy this in France, if so where?

Posted: Tue 16 Nov 2010 10:23
by russell
Marguerite & Steve wrote:(not doubting you for one minute Russell)
Why not :lol:

Russell.

Posted: Tue 16 Nov 2010 10:41
by russell
Marguerite & Steve wrote:Do I buy this in France, if so where?
Yes, at any reasonable bricolage shop eg., Leroy Merlin.

Pressure regulator:
You have two options. You can get a regulator to fit directly on the bottle if you are using a single bottle instalation. The (better) alternative is to use two bottles connected via flexible hoses to a changeover valve that incorporates the regulator. The bottles are normally kept out of doors in some sort of shelter.

Cut off valve:
This valve is normally situated near the cooker and enables you to shut off the gas supply when necessary. It also shuts off automatically when the pressure drops (eg., when you change over between the two bottles) and then needs to be reset manually.

I'm not sure of the regulations here (perhaps someone can verify) but the piping indoors is copper and I believe the joints are silver soldered so, unless you have access to oxy-acetylene equipment you will have to get a plumber in to do the installation.

Russell.

Posted: Tue 16 Nov 2010 15:54
by Marguerite & Steve
thanks Russell , that info has been really helpful, I will now order my cooker.. :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010 17:57
by opas
russell wrote:
Marguerite & Steve wrote:the piping indoors is copper and I believe the joints are silver soldered so, unless you have access to oxy-acetylene equipment you will have to get a plumber in to do the installation.

Russell.
Am I being thick here?

Silver solder on copper pipes?

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010 19:48
by russell
opas wrote: Am I being thick here?

Silver solder on copper pipes?
Silver solder, an alloy of silver, copper, zinc, and in some cases cadmium is an excellent material for producing strong, non porous joints in copper. Depending on the alloy they melt at between 600 and 850 C so require different equipment to soft (tin/lead) solder.

I am presently building a working model steam locomotive and am using silver solder to build the copper boiler. Soft solder here would be highly dangerous.

Russell.

Posted: Tue 23 Nov 2010 00:16
by mrob343
russell wrote:
opas wrote: Am I being thick here?

Silver solder on copper pipes?
Silver solder, an alloy of silver, copper, zinc, and in some cases cadmium is an excellent material for producing strong, non porous joints in copper. Depending on the alloy they melt at between 600 and 850 C so require different equipment to soft (tin/lead) solder.

I am presently building a working model steam locomotive and am using silver solder to build the copper boiler. Soft solder here would be highly dangerous.

Russell.
He's right Opas ! :)

Posted: Tue 23 Nov 2010 08:19
by opas
Ok so I was being thick! nowt new there :roll:

Posted: Tue 23 Nov 2010 11:57
by thumbelina
No you were not being thick! It was a fair question! If you don't know anything about soldering you couldn't be expected to know that! :D

Posted: Tue 23 Nov 2010 15:37
by russell
opas wrote:Ok so I was being thick! nowt new there :roll:
Not at all Opas. Silver soldering isn't something that is widely used in DIY.

If you're interested there is lots of info on the subject here:
http://www.cupalloys.co.uk/

Russell.